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Dear Caroline,

I do so love a good rant, and this is a corker! But still, we have our fundamental disagreement - which, I stress, we are able to talk about, which makes us somehow remarkable in an age where disagreement is forbidden.

"It still beggars belief that there are still good people out there who believe the Great Reset is just a series of ‘cock-ups.’ It pains me because there is such a range of high-quality evidence out there in the public domain. It is a lot of reading, I have done it..."

You and I have probably read all the same material in this regard, but our conclusions are a little different. I think this is because my standards of evidence are tighter, which is not an insult to you - my standards of evidence could be too high (probably they are), but I am hardly in a position to change my standards, even while almost everyone else seems to do so at a whim. This is simply just a difference between me and other people, one that I think is valuable. If everyone's standards of evidence were as tight as mine, we'd be in serious trouble! 🙂

In fact, I've probably read a lot more than you on some topics (especially those damnable face masks) as for two years I read every academic paper released on the topic as it was released. This was a horrible experience. But I would not erase it from my memory, as it was also important. One thing it showed me was that the Nonsense (as I call it) was a confluence of desires and fears, in which the desires and fears of the ultrarich had disproportionate influence. And this was hardly a new discovery - it just came out in clearer relief at this time because the claims were even more insane than usual.

Our disagreement goes to what proportion of these events to ascribe to maliciousness rather than incompetence. I am currently unpersuaded by claims that this was intentionally pursued as a depopulation event (a view I think you hold). This is in part because SARS-CoV-2 is hopelessly ill-suited to this purpose, and the mod-mRNA failed vaccine candidates aren't actually much better at this either, despite being such a horrendous disaster. So even if this were someone's nefarious goal, we would have to conclude that they were incompetent in going about it. I personally feel it is more parsimonious to presume that the incompetence is the through-line here, not the maliciousness. (Not caring about accidental depopulation is radically different from intentionally planning to do so.)

The WEF is not, I would suggest, a gathering of Bond villains at all, but rather an opportunity to gape in slack jawed amazement at the banal stupidity of the ultrarich. The incomparable Eugyppius has advanced the same view: I believe his analysis is the correct one. We should be grateful for the WEF for exposing the stupidity of the ultrarich. It is, in some bizarre way, comforting that they do not possess the genius-degree of intelligence of a Goldfinger or Blofeld. They are really quite shockingly *stupid*.

Intentionally co-ordinating the Nonsense for the purpose of the Great Reset looks very similar to taking advantage of the Nonsense to push through a previously desired agenda. I believe you favour the former interpretation, I favour the latter. But more so, because of my damnable standards of evidence, I cannot accept your interpretation without the missing pieces of the puzzle that make it fit together. I cannot find this evidence. Eugyppius' interpretation is far more robust.

None of this is a reason not to be angry. Believe me, I am still angry, and I fear I always will be about this. But I will not leap to one conclusion while other interpretations are available and supported by the same evidence. And these events are adequately explained by a confluence of commercial influence, ultrarich paranoia about disease among those getting old enough to face death and without the moral constitution to face it, partisan ideology run amok in so-called news sources that happen to have become heavily subsidised by certain commercial interests, the stupidity and cupidity of the wealthy, the ideological seasaw of social media, and the utter incompetence of contemporary human institutions. Collectively, these forces are more than enough to support my more sceptical position. I do not seek to convince you. I have no need. I just wish to speak my mind.

Finally, I wish to say that one piece of the puzzle remains missing. It is required before we can put together a 'final' interpretation (if such a thing is ever possible). It is the memos and minutes of the meetings within the US Department of Defence before it seized control of the international public health apparatus. We absolutely require this to complete our picture of events, and so far we have *nothing* on it at all. Nothing. I can find no plausible reason to presume the WEF have influence over the DoD. The reverse is far more likely in my view.

I have significant suspicions, based on the academic paperwork around the 'biosecurity' concept going back decades... but still, the most likely interpretation to me seems relatively benign next to intentional depopulation. This is that knowing that SARS-CoV-2 was the result of immensely foolhardy 'gain-of-function' research - i.e. bioweapon research pursued for humanitarian purposes(!) - the DoD took the opportunity to test its ready-made biosecurity playbook, designed originally for defending against terrorist bioweapon attacks. This to me is an absolutely parsimonious explanation, uncontradicted by any of the evidence.

If and when any of that comes out, we will be able to build a complete model of these events. But even without, I feel that we do not have to leap as far as you and others sympathetic to your interpretation do. I will not ask you not to. I do not even seek to persuade you otherwise. I just think it's important for everyone to understand - in this, and in all things: there is another way.

With unlimited love,

Chris.

PS: I hope it is clear, I am not requesting debate here: I don't think that is actually necessary right now between those of us aware of the details of the Nonsense. The debate is essentially fruitless until it can be broken out of these tiny little corners of the internet you and I tend. I just wished to speak my mind, as you have spoken yours. Thank you for both the opportunity and the spur to do so.

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The Sideways Thinker's avatar

Thanks for the detailed response Chris - always appreciated. Yes, it was a bit of a rant, and possibly something of a stream of consciousness. A tad presumptious I think to make assumptions about my critical faculties in academic terms or levels of reading... I have been putting something together on this as it happens, so not intended to be a big debate as such, but I will respond to this point. This includes many academic papers as well as books. I have tried to make it clear to believers and non-believers alike that I try to confine my reading to high quality work and by suitably qualified individuals. I don't agree with everyone, and there are contradictions everywhere. But when you piece things together, it is really difficult not to see a plan of some sort emerging. I don't quite envisage a clandestine group pushing pieces around a giant chess board, but Event 201 was a bit of a giveaway and there is sense that people seem to 'just know what to do.' Depopulation - there's a difficult thing to be sure. I do believe that there is a desire on the part of many powerful people to depopulate and to do it in plain sight and make it 'appear' as though a natural occurence. The mRNA injections are only one method and let's face it, they can't allow it to be too obvious if true (I accept that I may be totally wrong here). I take some of Mike Yeadon's comments seriously, especially when he indicates that you cannot make something that toxic and dangerous by accident. Doctors 4 Covid Ethics have published on this and have provided a free download - to be featured in my next item. The injections appear to operate in a variety of ways, and it does not take long to diminish the population even at an excess death rate of 'only' 1000 per week. This is a slow burn acclimatising project arguably, get people used to 'getting their next vaccine' and as Yeadon has recently alluded, once digital ID, smart cities and facial recognition are in place - they are building the architecture all around us now, then we're done for. Well, he might be wrong, but I am hosting a talk next week with someone who has researched the issue of solar farms and how this is linked to AI and surveillance. AI is planned to replace millions of jobs. Universal basic income could be on the way, and you won't get your benefits unless you 'comply.' Everything in education now is about compliance. I even see the word 'compliance' on tradesmens's vans, it's a thing.

There seems to be something of a death cult everywhere. Everywhere seems to be attacking food supplies (via farmers) everywhere now seems to have a fast track euthanasia service, everywhere seems to be pushing for abortions (Britain is edging towards 300,000 per annum - although I have not been abe to verify the exact figure), and the huge push towards trans and accompanying sterilisations are another factor. Everything seems to be geared towards lessening our numbers 'for the sake of the planet' and the abuse of young people can be detected everywhere. They are demoralised, depressed, ill, not able to cope with everyday interactions and so on. This is not news obviously. I just can't help joining all of this up and all roads go to Rome, the Club of Rome possibly.... It is frightening to be sure and I really hope I am wrong!

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Chris Bateman's avatar

Thanks Caroline! To be clear, I was never in any doubt of your academic capacities (knowing you read anything by Heidegger: all conceivable doubts instantly banished!) it was rather my presumption that you lacked my masochistic capacity to read all the crap that was churned out in academic journals during the Nonsense. If you, like me, are cursed with this blatant liability of character, then you absolutely have both my empathy and my sympathy. I would not inflict my reading experience in this regard on my worst enemy. To date, I know of no-one who endured this worse than I did during 2020-2022, with the singular exceptions of Tom Jefferson and Carl Heneghan, to whom I am a poor shadow in this regard.

Stay wonderful!

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The Sideways Thinker's avatar

I'm organising the next post - for you - including a recording no less!

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Harley Smedlapp's avatar

Bravo, Caroline ... Another superior analysis. Maybe I've missed some of your posts, but it seems a long time since I last read one of your pieces. And now I can only hope for more .... :-)

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The Sideways Thinker's avatar

Thank you - I have a number of essays on the go - also waiting to see if other sites want to publish some others before including them here. I think Chris (above) is right, this piece is more of a rant than analysis, but I couldn't let the anniversary of the debacle go without some comment....!

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Harley Smedlapp's avatar

Who says a rant can't be analytical? Good analysis can rationalize a well constructed rant ... so revel in it! 😆

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